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is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false. you have to look at the gun violence problem more broadly rather than fighting the last war. >> but there is a disconnect in this conversation. the quote from frank lutz. here's what he had to say about the nra's propos. >> the public wants guns out of the schools, not in and they're not asking for a security official or someone else. i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that
is this just playing up to the nra or a plausible solution? >> it's certain ly not a plausible solution, but the problem is, there are no plausible solutions. there's a guy, a criminalnologist who wrote a great piece about this. the thing with mass shootings, these guys are well prepared. and so, the idea from the right that you're dpoipg going to arm politician official, have them at every school is false and the idea on the left that you're going to eliminate guns, that's also false....
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>> the nra, this isn't new stuff. the nra, a high ranking official, said as much in 1990, that this is not about defense or this is not about hunting. this is not just about defense of the home, and we should be honest about that. this is about protecting ourselves from the government if we ever need to. >> you know, mayor nutter, michael nutter, i'm very proud to have him on, mayor nutter. the idea of the constitution which we can read, it's right in there, you have a right to have a musket because you have to be of a militia. militias are the people who are supposed to be carrying out the public order, protecting domestic tranquility, not creating trouble. they're supposed to be helping to protect against. these guys, these nuts come on and say i need my gun to fight my government. >> yeah. no, that's the police department, your state police, the national guard, and under -- i can't even imagine the circumstance. that's why we have the army. this is -- it's an absurdity, quite frankly, and the wonderful thing about
>> the nra, this isn't new stuff. the nra, a high ranking official, said as much in 1990, that this is not about defense or this is not about hunting. this is not just about defense of the home, and we should be honest about that. this is about protecting ourselves from the government if we ever need to. >> you know, mayor nutter, michael nutter, i'm very proud to have him on, mayor nutter. the idea of the constitution which we can read, it's right in there, you have a right to have...
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we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to have a gun. where do they get that from? there's one line in luke where jesus says buys a sword and he's speaking metaphorically and he tells him not to use sword. where do people get this notion of a god-given right to guns? >> they don't get it from the religious traditions. they get it from various elements of political culture that simply have no place in our religious thinking. we're created in the image of god. all of our major traditions embrace that principle. nothing defiles the image of god as much as pointing a gun at a small child and pullin
we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to...
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i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is there are a lot of republicans who are resistant to closing that loophole. republicans need to recognize that a second amendment and cracking down on illegal private sales both can happen at the same time. they need to move on that issue to be where the country is now. >> ever since the newtown shooting, i felt this has been a one dimensional conversation. it has been based on the issue of gun control. when to deal with and i think you have to look at it from multiple direction. the problem though is that you have folks who want the quick fix. they want to be able to say hey
i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. >> so, first to you, where is that common sense ground? from a republican policy perspective, what would that middle ground look like? >> my view is that you have to focus on gun trafficking. we have a huge problem with the federal private sales loophole in this country and the truth is...
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and that was a different nra. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of, i think, worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and -- but they became politically the leadership that approved the '68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others and eventually by charlton heston became a spokesman for that faction, and now we have wayne lapierre firmly in the saddle, and politically it's a very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. also been able to raise huge amounts of money and become maybe the most powerful lobby in washington. and it plays basically on the backlash, on people's fears of -- well, imcrime is rising and the police can't do anything about it, then how are we going to keep ourselves from being robbed? murdered? raped? and son on. we need firearms to defend ourselveses and the nra certainly has been playing on that line for many years. >> host: but as crime is rising in the '8s and early '9s, crack cocaine and the gangs and more sophisticated guns, congress acted again. really only the third time they acted to do a gun
and that was a different nra. >> guest: the nra still does a lot of, i think, worthwhile training and certifying of ability to use firearms safely, and -- but they became politically the leadership that approved the '68 gun control act was overthrown, replaced by others and eventually by charlton heston became a spokesman for that faction, and now we have wayne lapierre firmly in the saddle, and politically it's a very different organization from what it was in 1968, very clearly. also...
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i have had an nra rating of an "a," but, you know, enough is enough. i have got -- i'm father of three daughters, and this weekend they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? and i like i think most of us realize that there are ways to get to rational gun control. there are ways to grapple with the obvious challenges of mental illness. >> those wonderful words in the bible about you must become like a child. the interesting approach and i was thinking in so many cases in recent history you have seen the young in this country, the people under 30, for example, who have led the way on issues like same-sex marriage, on issues like even obama's election to the presidency and so many cases. do you think this is an area where young kids are going to say to their parents, get over this nra fixation, be loyal to us kids, not to them? >> i think that's exactly what we're hearing now and that's why you heard joe manchin from west virginia saying the same thing. you had harry reid, who is quite pro-gun out there making some favorable noise. a lot of these i
i have had an nra rating of an "a," but, you know, enough is enough. i have got -- i'm father of three daughters, and this weekend they all said, dad, you know, how can this go on? and i like i think most of us realize that there are ways to get to rational gun control. there are ways to grapple with the obvious challenges of mental illness. >> those wonderful words in the bible about you must become like a child. the interesting approach and i was thinking in so many cases in...
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and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive gun laws in defensive crouch right now and it's the time you want to capitalize on that. it's probably the only time. you don't want to let those forces, any sense of complacency setback and you don't want to let the force that is are standing in the way of progress on this issue give them time to regroup and get them -- bolster their efforts. this is going to exist. it's not easy to get done. >> mika, you look at what happened, how it happened. we talked about this happening in shopping mallses in oregon and movie theaters in colorado, college campuses in virginia. of course finally a first grade class in connecticut. in a state that certainly has tougher gun laws than, say, a lot of other red states. in a community that seems like it should have been so shielded from this and a season that is supposed to be about peace. >> exactly. >> i think it underlined in so many ways why none of us, are none of us are shielded from this kind of violence unless we force our leaders to do something. >> well, and, again, i th
and right now the nra is on its heels defenders of our insanely permissive gun laws in defensive crouch right now and it's the time you want to capitalize on that. it's probably the only time. you don't want to let those forces, any sense of complacency setback and you don't want to let the force that is are standing in the way of progress on this issue give them time to regroup and get them -- bolster their efforts. this is going to exist. it's not easy to get done. >> mika, you look at...
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since 2009, 99-nra-backed alec laws have passed in 36 states. all of those states are states where alec-backed gun legislation has passed. and as a result gun safety laws across the country have gotten incredibly watered down. in arizona you need a permit to cut hair but not to carry a concealed. in mississippi concealed weapons permits last longer than driver's licenses. iowa it's easier to sell a gun than lemonade. in arkansas it takes less time to buy a gun than to qualify for food stamps. not only do we have weaker gun laws than other countries, we have significantly more guns than any other place on the planet. look at this chart. those little yellow dots are the number of runs that are in all of those countries, all of those advanced industrialized nations, and there are 270 million privately owned firearms in the united states, far more than any other country the world. that's an average of roughly nine guns for every 10 americans. almost as many guns as there are people. and sadly the sandy hook venn has only aggravated this trend. the l
since 2009, 99-nra-backed alec laws have passed in 36 states. all of those states are states where alec-backed gun legislation has passed. and as a result gun safety laws across the country have gotten incredibly watered down. in arizona you need a permit to cut hair but not to carry a concealed. in mississippi concealed weapons permits last longer than driver's licenses. iowa it's easier to sell a gun than lemonade. in arkansas it takes less time to buy a gun than to qualify for food stamps....
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but we also need to take a look at what's going on to combat the nra, to push back against the nra. you know, i wrote a piece talking about how mayor bloomberg is doing his part with mayors against illegal guns and also his super pac, independence usa pac, where he's really going out there, pushing back against illegal guns, going up against the nra in only the way mike bloomberg can, one, because he's a billionaire. and being a billionaire gives you the money to go up against the nra, which a lot of people donate ha don't have, but it also gives him that independence to sort of tell the nra to stuff it. so if you have the president out there pushing, you have mayor bloomberg out there pushing, then i think it's incumbent upon all of us to go out there and and give our members of congress the courage they need to tell the nra, this time, we're not listening to you. this time, we're going to do something. >> yeah. john heilemann? >> well, look, i think that that's all true. and you know, you know, the president has the loudest voice here. and he can't -- you know, he's only one voice
but we also need to take a look at what's going on to combat the nra, to push back against the nra. you know, i wrote a piece talking about how mayor bloomberg is doing his part with mayors against illegal guns and also his super pac, independence usa pac, where he's really going out there, pushing back against illegal guns, going up against the nra in only the way mike bloomberg can, one, because he's a billionaire. and being a billionaire gives you the money to go up against the nra, which a...
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he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just him. a lot of the members. you are a senator from virginia, mark warner. are you going to step up, lead on gun control initiative again? here is somebody will do it. mansion from west virginia. a guy who used a gun in his ads and shot a senate bill, used it as a target. he is stepping away. it is going to be fascinating. but i think they were able to -- how far can they go and still avoid a primary problem later on? >> karl, they are talking about it being broad. not just gun control. mental health. and cultural issues. like video games and hollywo
he has b-plus rating with the nra. what does he do? is he for whatever the steps are to move forward on gun control? that could be a problem for him in 2016. on the other hand, if he says with the nra, if they don't move, if there is no move fire department them and he stays with them and builds up his nra rating for the primary, of 2016, given he may be running for president, that may help him in primary. but with this environment, it could hurt him in the general election. that is not just...
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and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even at one point i said to them, would you answer even one question? are you willing to talk to the white house about any of this, even to that, they just kept walking. that was a big disappointment and sort of set the tone for the room. >> when wayne lapierre said falsehoods about semiautomatic weapons and the media are demonizing gun owners, is he right? >> no. but even before that what he got was a priceless gift of 25 minutes of free media from those news organizations that elected to carry it live. and i bet they were rather disappointed when they learned, as you just said, tom, that there woul
and tom foreman who attended friday's nra event. tom, what was it like being at this nra event? i won't call it a press conference. are you surprised that not a single journalist got to ask a question? >> it was not a press conference. all of us expected to exchange questions and answers with wayne lapierre and the president of nra who was there. it didn't happen at all. it did not happen but adamantly did not happen. several of us tried to call out questions to the participants and even...
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and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to suggest to a nation that a sort of rising up for action, that the answer to to many guns in our society is to put an rnl aed guard in the class room, i think that wayne la pierre has a problem within the country but also within his organization. >> suarez: he pointed out that when you put up a sign that says gun-free school, this he is a gun-free school zone, that you are telling anybody who might want to commit an armed crime there, that they can come on in and no one will shoot back. >> i must tell you, i mean he was speaking in english but be
and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was denied. the d.c. police chief said we are investigating incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real. >>> one loud critic of the u.s. gun law is cnn host piers morgan. some in the u.s. are ready to send the british citizen packing. over 80,000 people signed requests on the white house petition site to deport morgan for engaging in "hostile attack" against the constitution targeting the second amendment. white house requires 25,000 signatures to garner a response. on twitter, more gone asked if i do get deported from america for wanting fewer gun murders are there any other countries that will have me? one of
meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was...
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. >>> and then the withering criticism being aimed at the nra. the heated debate over guns is ahead. >>> welcome back. well, so far, it's been a quiet holiday season at the malls. analysts say shoppers are worried about the budget stalemate in washington or they're delayed by superstorm sandy or depressed by the connecticut school shootings. >> as we hear from nick watt, the holiday shopping season is not over yet. >> reporter: we have just entered the final frantic hours of gift buying. you look stressed. >> i have a little anxiety. i'm not going the lie. i'm tripping out. >> reporter: there are crumbs of comfort. the sign says the delayed gifts might be the best. number one, frugality i vap rates. you throw money at the problem. number two, you make a gut instinct decision. >> you want to buy a sweater for your wife. if you think about it too much, you may outthink yourself and not make a good choice. >> reporter: you to feel you perform better under pressure? >> absolutely. you have to make a good decision. you have to make a decision. >> repo
. >>> and then the withering criticism being aimed at the nra. the heated debate over guns is ahead. >>> welcome back. well, so far, it's been a quiet holiday season at the malls. analysts say shoppers are worried about the budget stalemate in washington or they're delayed by superstorm sandy or depressed by the connecticut school shootings. >> as we hear from nick watt, the holiday shopping season is not over yet. >> reporter: we have just entered the final...
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he has extremely close ties with the nra. he's a trustee of the nra foundation. he's a director of the nra's hunting and wildlife committee. he's its president on committee advancement and its nominating committee. he's on that, too. but perhaps the person who really had steve feinberg's ear the president of cerberus' ear following the sandy hook tragedy was not his big name partners. but maybe it was his father. martin feinberg, who actually lives in newtown connecticut. the elder mr. feinberg today called the events devastating. joining me now is daniel gross the global business editor for "newsweek" and the "daily beast." he has been covering the cerberus story. he's coming to us from new york. welcome back inside "the war room." >> good to be here. >> jennifer: so how significant is it that the california teacher's pension is threatening to divest from this fund and what does this portend for other potential pension funds? >> i think it actually is pretty significant. i wouldn't say it is a dirty little secret. it is very little known if this whole private eq
he has extremely close ties with the nra. he's a trustee of the nra foundation. he's a director of the nra's hunting and wildlife committee. he's its president on committee advancement and its nominating committee. he's on that, too. but perhaps the person who really had steve feinberg's ear the president of cerberus' ear following the sandy hook tragedy was not his big name partners. but maybe it was his father. martin feinberg, who actually lives in newtown connecticut. the elder mr. feinberg...
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. >>> the head of the nra defends some controversial remarks about gun control made in the aftermath of the deadly shooting at sandy hook elementary. he sticks by his statement where he says the tragedy could have been prevented if every school has armed guards. >> it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children then call me crazy. i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe and the nra is going to try to do that. >> he sat down with "meet the press" david gregory yesterday and the first time he's taken questions. many called the comments out of touch. the shooting at sandy hook sparked a new debate on gun control after a man shot 20 children and six adults ten days ago. that debate was evident throughout the washington area over the weekend. a small but vocal group of gun control advocates showed up outside a gun shop in falls church calling for a ban on assault style weapons and ammunition and more funding for mental health programs. the nra's push to put armed guards in sch
. >>> the head of the nra defends some controversial remarks about gun control made in the aftermath of the deadly shooting at sandy hook elementary. he sticks by his statement where he says the tragedy could have been prevented if every school has armed guards. >> it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children then call me crazy. i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people...
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what is the nra trying to do in the wake of these tragedies? talk about mental health, talk about video games, for heaven's sakes, when they really should be acknowledging that these kind of systems are very much needed. >> former a.t.f. agent william vizzard, thank you very much. karen finney, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up, the poor romneys are still struggling to explain why mitt lost. their latest explanation, we can only hope, is the last romney lie of 2012. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk
what is the nra trying to do in the wake of these tragedies? talk about mental health, talk about video games, for heaven's sakes, when they really should be acknowledging that these kind of systems are very much needed. >> former a.t.f. agent william vizzard, thank you very much. karen finney, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up, the poor romneys are still struggling to explain why mitt lost. their latest explanation, we can only...
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meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was denied. the d.c. police chief said we are investigating incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real. >>> one loud critic of the u.s. gun law is cnn host piers morgan. some in the u.s. are ready to send the british citizen packing. over 80,000 people signed requests on the white house petition site to deport morgan for engaging in "hostile attack" against the constitution targeting the second amendment. white house requires 25,000 signatures to garner a response. on twitter, more gone asked if i do get deported from america for wanting fewer gun murders are there any other countries that will have me? one of
meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was...
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we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the restroom and somebody breaks and from the front? how are they going to protect the children? how many children do we have to lose? host: thanks for the call -- let me share with you this photograph from "the new york daily news." a handful of students tried to flee and lanza shot teem. some of the other fallen students are in the photograph. because of the teacher process protection, most of her students survived a car. -- survived a the horror. asheville, north carolina, republican line. caller: i would like to say one thing and i t
we are the nra and the and are a. nra. host: those of the words of senator joe manchin who is a gun advocate. we're taking your calls and comments -- will it be a bitter fight ahead? we go to the democrats' line from macon, georgia. caller: how many children are we going to lose to guns before something is done? i remember during the 08 election, there were people around the president of the united states with assault rifles. we put people in schools with the guns, what happens if there in the...
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they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown had been armed, they would have survived. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left at sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> earlier this month nra ceo wayne la pierre warned members to get prepared for a massive effort by the white house to take away guns. >> we are about to be victim of a siege against the second amendment in this country going into obama'
they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown...
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to equate the nra with a kkk is outrageous. i'm no big fan of the nra to suggest they have some racial motive, there is no evidence of that whatsoever. >> bill: you are actually sounding rational tonight. is it the new hair cut? >> i took o'reilly pills. >> bill: more o'reilly pills you can take the better. so even colmes so your brother-in-law colmes, is that better? >> yeah, right. >> admits that this far out whitlock deal is is insane. but it comes back to the fact that even conservative commentators locked in on the gun thing because they didn't like the way costas put it rather than it's personal responsibility, why aren't we holding all of these people. and not just murderers. but you know when your kid does something like smoke pot or get drunk and then well, everyone is doing it and -- then you give them a pass or her a pass. you are just playing into that whole garbage and it just escalates. >> that's right. i think you are hitting on something really important. you are teasing it out to a bigger cultural problem. for
to equate the nra with a kkk is outrageous. i'm no big fan of the nra to suggest they have some racial motive, there is no evidence of that whatsoever. >> bill: you are actually sounding rational tonight. is it the new hair cut? >> i took o'reilly pills. >> bill: more o'reilly pills you can take the better. so even colmes so your brother-in-law colmes, is that better? >> yeah, right. >> admits that this far out whitlock deal is is insane. but it comes back to the...
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you have a top rating for the nra. use support their proposal to put armed guards in schools it erode the will be a big debate over the next year. -- schools? >> it will be a big debate over the next year. there 1100 schools that have that have anheire ability to protect the young people and teachers. it has worked well in indiana. it is not lead to an escalation in violence. it could be a good proposal as part of what is being done. we need to take a comprehensive look at how we handle mental health. the way we treat those who are mentally ill is very different than it was even 20 years ago. some of that is because we have had medical advances that allow folks to tackle challenges of medicine. we need to ask ourselves whether other people on the streets today the would not have been there just a few short decades ago. and how are we going to do that. history shows that when you have bands, they keep guns away from folks who are law-abiding citizens or not the problem -- bans, they keep guns away from folks who are law
you have a top rating for the nra. use support their proposal to put armed guards in schools it erode the will be a big debate over the next year. -- schools? >> it will be a big debate over the next year. there 1100 schools that have that have anheire ability to protect the young people and teachers. it has worked well in indiana. it is not lead to an escalation in violence. it could be a good proposal as part of what is being done. we need to take a comprehensive look at how we handle...
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the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have here is, you know, we've got guns, assault weapons that the military would normally use. we've got those in our neighborhoods and in our schools. we can't have that. he talked, mr. la pierre of the nra, talked at length about the monster that is are in our society, but he really, andrea, didn't talk about how we make sure those monsters don't get the guns. i haut it was an effort to try to put forth a solution, but that solution is very, very limited. he never talked about these high capacity ammo clips that are not needed unless you're killing -- trying to kill a lot of
the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have...
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to pay the nra. nra is still in existence because they do a good job. melissa: mark, what about that? does that mean union workers to prove their worth? >> i think unions fight for workers every day. there is plenty more we can be doing. i've been a vocal critic my entire career in the labor movement people who lay back, don't do enough. making too much in terms of officers salaries or cutting deals with bosses. i certainly believe we need to do better. this is not in any way something to celebrate. this is further tilting playing field in favor of corporations, taking rights away from working people. i disagree with vinnie. nra you can join it or not tell it. your boss isn't telling you in who uncertain terms he prefer if you not and your job might be in jeopardy if you do. melissa: how do you know that is what is going to go on here? unions are well-established. in many -- >> it is mtibillion-dollar inindustry, come on, you know this. melissa: they're are already working the shops. they're proving
to pay the nra. nra is still in existence because they do a good job. melissa: mark, what about that? does that mean union workers to prove their worth? >> i think unions fight for workers every day. there is plenty more we can be doing. i've been a vocal critic my entire career in the labor movement people who lay back, don't do enough. making too much in terms of officers salaries or cutting deals with bosses. i certainly believe we need to do better. this is not in any way something to...
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the nra opposes that. there are so many common sense gun reforms -- and i'm writing about this for a call tomorrow -- that we already have a national consensus, in judging by the polls. the nra is against even modest reforms and in a way that confirmed the idea that they have turned from a grass-roots organization into a mouthpiece for the gun industry. let's be honest. their spokesman spoke very well for the gun industry's position, saying we need to put more guns out there. whatever real debate. host: bob is a republican caller. caller: merry christmas. i was going to comment on the fairness of taxing, but i have a couple quick points about the gun problem. if that mother had licked, of the shooter, she would've been in violation of not providing a trigger locks and keeping the guns locked up in a safe. there are laws that she should of been arrested for. >guest: she should have obeid them. caller: the earlier caller comparing england with america, and there's a big difference in the gun problem, america
the nra opposes that. there are so many common sense gun reforms -- and i'm writing about this for a call tomorrow -- that we already have a national consensus, in judging by the polls. the nra is against even modest reforms and in a way that confirmed the idea that they have turned from a grass-roots organization into a mouthpiece for the gun industry. let's be honest. their spokesman spoke very well for the gun industry's position, saying we need to put more guns out there. whatever real...
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the nra will be holding a press conference. they released a statement that said the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra? what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't say but -- >> when have they done it before? they have never done it before. >> they never have, but when they say they want to give some meaningful contributions, they mean it. >> they'll talk about mental illness, possible checks on mental illness, the video culture of our society, they'll talk about everything but guns. your thought, ron. we have to get out of here, but i don't have any co
the nra will be holding a press conference. they released a statement that said the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra? what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would...
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the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually endorsed by the nra. so clearly, as congressman john yarmouth told us yesterday on ""full-court press"" politicians no longer have to be afraid of standing up against the nra and for sensible gun control. my final comment for today folks. tomorrow's show, we'll be joined in studio by congresswoman rosa delaro and by senator john eudal. go out and have a great one. we will see you back here tomorrow morning. >> this is "the bill press show." deep. like me. [ male announcer ] head & shoulders deep clean for men. ♪ ♪
the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually...
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>> the nra also retained asa hutchison the former u.s. attorney, congressman and u.s. security official to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group said could be tailored by any school to suit its needs. harris? >> harris: if people were anywhere near their computers or tv's today they saul duling news conferences all over the place with people on different sides of gun control debate appearing. but then they didn't seem to be anywhere near a compromise. >> no, harris. and president obama released a video message today vowing to fight nor new gun laws early next year. the contours of this debate are already taking shape as leading democrats press for a renewed assault weapons ban and for new limits on semiautomatic ammuniti magazines. a leading senate democrat says she favors schools being allowed to have armed guards if they so choose but then she then cited the columbine massacre. >> in fact, there were two armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooter
>> the nra also retained asa hutchison the former u.s. attorney, congressman and u.s. security official to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group said could be tailored by any school to suit its needs. harris? >> harris: if people were anywhere near their computers or tv's today they saul duling news conferences all over the place with people on different sides of gun control...
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the head of the nra renewed his call forearmed officers in schools. and the backlash against assault weapons is continuing. several stores in colorado are no longer selling them. one store owner said he didn't ever want to open a newspaper and find out something he had sold had been used in a tragedy like the one in newtown. the country is so divided on this issue. the polls suggest people want congress to take some action, if nothing more to close loopholes, perhaps ban some of the high capacity magazines. so you think something is going to happen, but you have to wonder if it has the votes in the house to get it passed. even that assault weapons ban from '94 to 2004, even when that passed in the '90s, it passed by two or three votes. so republicans now control the house. i don't know how anything gets through or if it is, it's a baby step. >> and as you heard from the nra, they don't seem to be budging on the issue, either. >> no. leavgun control alone. >>> now a major medical headline just out this morning, and it has to do with bullied, overweight
the head of the nra renewed his call forearmed officers in schools. and the backlash against assault weapons is continuing. several stores in colorado are no longer selling them. one store owner said he didn't ever want to open a newspaper and find out something he had sold had been used in a tragedy like the one in newtown. the country is so divided on this issue. the polls suggest people want congress to take some action, if nothing more to close loopholes, perhaps ban some of the high...
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the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal cliff. will they get a deal done before the end of the year, president obama is on vacation and so is house speaker john boehner, but here's what they said before they left. >> call me a hopeless optimist, but i actually still think we can get it done. >> of course, hope springs eternal, and i know we have it in us to come together and to do the right thing. >> for more on all this i want to bring in nbc's white house correspondent kristen welker who is traveling with the president in hawaii. she joins us now from honolulu. hey, kristen. the president and the speaker are st
the nra says that's what will clean our children safe. we'll talk to one former governor who took on that gun lobby. >> thank you and god bless america. you guys are the best. thank you so much. >> then details out today about mitt romney's not so enthusiastic approach to running for the white house and what it might say about the will challenges ahead for the gop. good afternoon. all that and more ahead. >>> first, lawmakers are down to the wire on avoiding the fiscal...
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i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so merry cliff-mas for retailers or wall street. how the stalled negotiations are already impacting this economy. >>> and a big question to you, are you optimistic that congress can reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? tweet me. find me on facebook. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen
i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why...
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luckily, the power of the nra was shown to be a paper tiger in the last election. i think that knowledge is going to have to be broadcast and assimilated that you can take on the nra and live to tell about it. you know, no right is absolute. we have the first amendment right to freedom of speech, but you can't get away with yelling fire in a crowded theater. so second amendment, the supreme court has ruled the second amendment confers a personal right to carry arms, but it doesn't confer a personal right to carry machine guns or grenade launchers or semiautomatic weapons, or large magazine clips. there is no hunter that needs more than three bullets in a rifle to hunt. anything beyond that is not only fair subject for regulation, but absolutely ought to be banned. >> but there is very few hunters out there that want to be hold what kind of firearm they can use. this is the urban divide that the president talked about today. over the last 30 years before i came to work here in new york. it's two different worlds. you go to the middle of the country and they say don'
luckily, the power of the nra was shown to be a paper tiger in the last election. i think that knowledge is going to have to be broadcast and assimilated that you can take on the nra and live to tell about it. you know, no right is absolute. we have the first amendment right to freedom of speech, but you can't get away with yelling fire in a crowded theater. so second amendment, the supreme court has ruled the second amendment confers a personal right to carry arms, but it doesn't confer a...